I dont know if JGD speaks on behalf of all in his response so please dont flame me if this is not quite so (althoughtIm sure the sentiment is quite accurate)

My Take is that all the temples can put onto a scale, like we do for political parties, I see Totjf at one end, totjo somewhere in the middle (with fluctuations left n right) and tots at the other end.

The scale is simply the human view, the philosophies... the force simply is

So in that respect, we are all linked via the force.

However to put what others have said in a more direct and brutally blunt fashion id like to suggest this

People who 'prefer' the methods of totjf, keep to totjf and concern themselves with totjf business and dont drag your dirty linen around with you to other temples.

People who 'prefer' the methods of totjo, keep to totjo and concern themselves with totjo business and dont drag your dirty linen around with you

People who 'prefer' the methods of tots, keep to tots and concern themselves with tots business and dont drag your dirty linen around with you

If the various other sites allow guest visits then great, visit our mutual brothers and sisters of the force and friends, but please show the common courtesy to show respect, and respect each of the groups and indeed individuals practises, without judgment.

Ive said it before and again and again, but if you dont like the way a site/temple is run - leave (ie dont visit) it truly is as simple as that.

I hope I haven't offended anyone with this and again I apologise for airing my dirty laundry in another's yard - if your wondering where i stand on the scale... actually I like elements of all so I cant say for sure.

Once again my sincere best wishes to EVERYONE in their endevours

MTFBWY - A / MYGGWY / MTFSYW

There's no use beating a dead dog but I must remind y'all of one thing. Before the Schism the contract was that I would be a Non Voting ex offico member of The Council (TC). I was to be included in all TC business like any other member of TC and be able to speak on issues but not vote.

Everyone involved especially KC Avalon went out of their way to exclude me from TC and would not even tell me what was going on. "We (TC) will inform you when and if we wish", she told me.

The amendments to the articles of incorporation were mailed in and you can look them up to this day on the official Texas site. I'd really done what I agreed.

It was TC that broke the agreement so I stopped payment on the filing fee and the articles of amendment were revoked and voided by the Secretary of State of Texas.

We'll never know what would have been but had they not broke our contract the amendments would have legally removed my power over the Old TOTJO and I could have done nothing to void it.

It's convenient to forget this annoying fact since it destroys such a lovely theory but all of you who were around back then know it is true.

After Todd and I literally were almost the death of each other and now we're BFF again I don't believe it's possible for something to ever get us back to that horrible place again. I've known Todd since 1983.

If I remember correctly TC that replaced me here was eventually wiped out of existence by Todd for never getting anything done.

I don't know how your system is now but I am glad that you found something that worked.

The Sith do have a point about conflict being a catalyst to creation (if it's not carried to far which I believe The Sith Creed does). There are now four viable sites that probably would never have been had there not been The Schism. At least folks have a choice and that's a good thing.

TOTJF
(The New) TOTJO
Master Kyp's Praxeum
http://TempleOfTheSith.org

MTFBWYA,

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Greetings all,

I am usually not one to speak on this type of thing, because my only concern is the development of Jedi and this Temple. Now...here's the thing. If Jedi want to come here from TOTJO because they are either seeking something better and/or different than what they have been accustomed to in the past, then so be it...more the merrier, Welcome to the Temple of the Jedi Force!

But I will say this. This Temple does not train in, nor tolerate dark side practices. We do not have Sith here, nor do we practice the 5th Rite (We have no Rites here.). We are Jedi here and practice in the light. The only dark that is here is that which has been brought with and the willing are training to part with. I want this to be crystal clear to everyone.

Thank you and May the Force be With You,
Jedi Grayson Dark

Allow me to say this much.

I am well aware of the history of Br. John's retiring on multiple occasions. What issues are raised with TOTJO are TOTJO issues. We (TOTS) are no longer involved.

As you can tell from the post of Lord Ash`rak we have claimed our independence from TOTJO 100%. Now as to us that needs to learn how to fly on our own, we have in fact been doing so since the sell of the Site and all rights that accompany that sell, CLEAN AND CLEAR. Not to be rude or anything, but it seems that TOTJO is the site that needs to learn how to spread their wings and learn how to fly.

For far too long the Sith or 5th Rite has been laid with blame that is completely unfair in many regards. Any issues that have resulted in true blame the Sith have taken responsibility for. It will now be interesting to see who gets the blame now that we are out of the picture.

Many of you ask "How does this affect TOTJF?" besides the server issue, it would be readily apparent. TOTJF is Jedi and TOTJO is Jedi, so common sense would say that you are all Jedi. But you do not see this which is your mistake.

MTFSYW

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